Subj: COMING SOON Date: 93-12-26 13:18:48 EST From: Sonic212 Posted on: America Online Today, in a Toys R Us ad, they showed a picture of Sonic 3 box, release date, and price. I am going to pre order mine just for the Music CD. The price: listen to this-it must be a 24 meg game to cost this much $69.99. I am sure it will be found cheaper at other places. Next months mags will probably have coverage... Sonic212Subj: I saw it 2 Date: 93-12-26 15:59:50 EST From: BENNIS ENT Posted on: America Online It's gonna have to be something to be worth that price. I mean REALLY something. Be sure and let us know when you find out more Sonic 212. Subj: $69?! Date: 93-12-26 19:46:44 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Man,they shoulda stuck on CD! What more could you do with sonic anyhow? I mean sonic 2 is the fastest sonic can ever get. With the sega CD The genesis can atleast steal some speed of the CD-ROM (I mean,the cd roms only gona be playing CD music,right?). well,its too early to say. Where the HE!! Is EGM?! (I even got subsription to it. no where here or at the stores all month!) Subj: Sonic 3 Date: 93-12-26 23:59:35 EST From: Sir LOKI Posted on: America Online When did it say it was comming out? Game Fan said it was better then Sonic CD... That shouldn`t be too hard!!! (Part 1 is STILL my fav, CD Sonic was a let down) Subj: Sonic 3... Date: 93-12-27 00:46:23 EST From: DrCaligari Posted on: America Online ...is due out February 2nd, which Sega is now calling Hedgehog Day. :) Don't forget, the $10 rebate from Sega will still be in effect (when you buy the 10 rolls of Lifesavers.) So it will only cost you $63 then (69 + 4 (for the candy) -10). Joy! Subj: Hedgehog Day? Date: 93-12-27 01:58:29 EST From: Sonic212 Posted on: America Online Boy, does that name suck! Anyways, Sega has something to say about the game, and I will post it later today. Sonic212 Subj: Sonic STuff Date: 93-12-28 10:48:24 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Here's what I have been able to find out. It comes out on February 2nd. It will have a list price o 69.99. You can now pre-order it at toys-us. Using the new DSP technology this sonic could be faster than the CD version. They are saying that it will weigh in at close to or over 24 meg's. It will be LONGER than Sonic CD. It should be the winner of the century. Echoe PS> When I find more out I will Leave it here. Subj: Yea..right! Date: 93-12-28 11:20:25 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Winner of the century? i think not. The last 2 sonics didn't do anything and there Eternal Champions came out with a puff of air. some 24 meg wonder. the DSP Chip dosn't make the genesis FATSER,it makes tricks like scaling and rotation for software ALOT Easier to do. This could be a reapeat of Sonic CD. Subj: DSP Chip? I don't think so Date: 93-12-28 11:57:40 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online I have a problem with saying this game will use the DSP chip. Virtua Racing will be the first, and it will be $100. The DSP is supposed to be around $50 per chip, so that would be like buying Sonic 3 for $19.99. More info later. Sonic313 Subj: DSP Date: 93-12-28 12:41:30 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Sega is planning on selling the DSP as a seperate pheriperal. Then you plug DSP friendly cartridges into the DSP pheriperal and bingo DSP power. Virtua Racing will be the only game without the Perhiperal. Then you only have to spend the 50 bucks once. Subj: That sucks Date: 93-12-28 19:59:41 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online If what you say is true, the DSP is seperate, it's gonna really suck. It's probably not going to go over very well. It sound like a money maker for Sega... Han Subj: What Sonic 3 should be Date: 93-12-28 20:32:50 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Sonic 3 should be the final sonic. I would hope it would end the seires and answer all the questions. Here is an excerpt from the very rare Sonic comic book made by Sega, Fall 1993. It was not sold in stores, but it was given out free by Sega. The part I am including was the part Sega left out in an 1992 issue of Sega Visions. Perhaps they wanted to change the storyline... NEXT POST-THE STORY Subj: The story Date: 93-12-28 20:33:40 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Part 1: How Sonic became blue Sonic(narrator): It all started the say when I accidentally burrowed into Dr. Kintobor's underground laboratory... Dr. Kintobor: Eureka! I've done it! (The brown hedgehog walks to the doctor) Sonic: What!? What have you done? Dr. Kintobor: I have created a retro-orbital chaos compressor! I call it R.O.C.C. for short! Sonic: What does it do? Smash trash? Dr. Kintobor: No! No! It attracts all the evil forces on your planet! ...and locks it inside those emeralds!! Once I destroy the emeralds, I will erase all evil from Mobius forever! But first I have to... I thought I saw and Erinaceus Europaeus!(Latin for Hedgehog) Who in tarnations are you? Sonic: Don't you know? I'm Sonic the Hedgehog. Sonic(narrator): Doc and I soon became fast friends! He even let me train on his experimental supersonic treadmill! Dr. Kintobor: ...acording to Eggstein's theory of mass versus velocity, you should only be able to achieve a speed of... Sonic: Ha! Eggstein's theory! What a yolk! Dr. Kintobar: Amazing! 355 miles per hour! And its still climbing! Sonic: I'll show you speed! Dr. Kintobar: Be careful! I don't know how much the treadmill can take! (A sonic boom occurs) Sonic: Hey! I'm blue! Dr. Kintobar: It must be the cobalt effect! ...A result of shockwaves hitting you when you smashed the sound barrier! Gadzooks! You even burned up your shoes! Sonic(narrator): Doc created a pair of frictionless shoes for me to wear! Sonic: Rrrrrico...suave! Part 2-How Kintobar became Robotnik Dr. Kintobar: I'm a little hungry... Sonic, get me a hardboiled egg and a soda...please?(Sonic suddenly appears) Dr. Kintobar: Now that's service! Sonic: What are you doing? Until I find a gray emerald which neutralizes evil, I must find a way to stabilize the emeralds in the R.O.C.C. OH NO!(Kintobar spills the soda and egg on the machine) Sonic(narrator): The explosion scattered the R.O.C.C.'s containment rings everywhere, and zapped Doc with over 10,000 volts of pure evil energy, turning Doc into an evil, hardboiled robotic nutcase!! Dr. Robotnik: I must destroy you... you walking pin cushion! Sonic: D-Doc? Yipes! I'm outta here! Sonic(narrator): Since then I have been collecting all the lost rings! Someone has got to put the R.O.C.C. back together! Subj: S3 Date: 93-12-28 21:51:41 EST From: Sir LOKI Posted on: America Online Is Sonic 3 FOR SURE using the DSP? (I sure hope so!) The DSP is the Sega version of the SFX chip, but faster! Subj: Re:S3DSP Date: 93-12-29 14:31:05 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I'm not sure that they are using it but rumors out of Sega say that the possibility is quite great. Can you imagine how cool the bonus rounds will be?!!! EchoeSubj: Echo... Date: 93-12-29 17:53:50 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online The B rounds would most likly look like the Sonic CDs,since Sonics scaling was even hardware scaling. I think sega might go with a bit more simpler one (then the sega CD one,but more than the last 2) So the scaling won't be so chopy. Besides? Why on earth woul you buy a game just because it has cool bonus rounds?Subj: S3+DSP Date: 93-12-30 03:18:43 EST From: Sir LOKI Posted on: America Online The bonus rounds from the CD on cart would be GREAT! (They were the best part of Sonic CD) Also, I would like to see them update the bonus rounds from 1 AND 2 and put ALL 3 in one game. (They could have it so a certain amount of rings would give a diffrent bonus game) Whadda ya think? Subj: Yea..right! Date: 93-12-30 12:07:02 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online The thing with the 3 bonus rounds sounds great...but Sonic CDs bonus round is there for 2 resons,1,they have the hardware scaling chip (wich can be simulated by the DSP) and 2,The CD Has tons of memory. To fit sonics CDs bonus round onto the cart would take up tons of memory.Subj: Here's what I think... Date: 93-12-30 12:13:24 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online This time, let's try a Sonic game with absolutely no rings! Maybe a different method of staying alive, like a life bar. This time, let's not have a bonus stage to collect an emerald, and just have secret power up spots throughout the game. The emeralds could all be with Sonic because he retrieved them all at the end of 2, right? Let's have a new bad guy. You can still kill Robotnik, but do something like one of the Mega Mans, so you think there is another leader. Make this a 2 game, where you take turns. Let's get rid of Green Hill, Turquoiste Hill, Palmtree Panic, Emerald Hill, and all the other hilly, grassy 1st zones. Instead of always fighting the boss, let's fight some Robotic baddies. Let's make Sonic have some new moves, and I guess Tails could remain. I just mentioned the dream Sonic game, bu it ain't gonna happen. Sega thinks all Sonic games should have small improvements from the one before it, and that's why Sonic is worn out. Sonic313Subj: I disagree... Date: 93-12-30 15:42:18 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online To Sonic 313, I think staying with the rings and emeralds would probably be better. They've been in the games since the first one and shouldn't be removed. If the changes are to great, people probably wouldn't like it as much. It wouldn't be consistant with the previous games. I think adding things to the game play is better that getting rid and replacing them. Han Subj: Same here... Date: 93-12-30 16:07:01 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online One of sonics originalitys is it uses rings for power,and aslong as U have one ring you will almostnever die. I think there should be other ways to get the emerals because The Bonus stages are usually only for show (OK,The one in the first sonic was cool) And have terrible play controll (if any). Subj: All right! Date: 93-12-30 19:47:57 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online We can keep the rings, but I don't want another cart with the practically same levels with different names. And I still think they should get rid of bonus rounds. They suck and always will! Sonic313Subj: I'm with Han! Date: 93-12-30 19:48:50 EST From: Sean OK Posted on: America Online Keep all the original stuff. I personally don't think Sonic is getting old or turning into a drag. Drastic changes are stupid. Take Mario turning into a flying racoon for example. That's my opinion, I welcome yours. Sean OK P.S. sorry about any spelling errors! : )Subj: Emeralds Date: 93-12-30 19:49:21 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Sonic 1 and 2 for GG had a good way to get emeralds. You find them hidden throughout the level. I liked Sonic CD because they didn't have any emeralds. Sonic313Subj: Kill Sonic! Date: 93-12-30 20:03:05 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online The damn game shouldn't even be made! Kill Sonic! That's the spirt! Okay, I am a Sonic fan, but the games are nearly all the same. I hate Mario, but they were all popular and they were all different. In no way can you compare Super Mario World with Super Mario Bros. But you can easily say Sonic CD is just a little better than the original Sonic adventure. QUESTIONS FOR HAN, AFTERS, SEAN 1.Tell me, who wants a dumb tree level again? 2. Who wants the same item boxes as part one to still be around(sneakers, super ring, etc.) 3. Who wants to have a sign that whirls at the end of the level again? 4. Who wants another Robotic Sonic clone(as in Sonic 2 for GG and Genesis and Sonic CD)? 5. Who wants more of that zone and act crap? The thing is, Sonic is a lot like Ross Perot. He was great at first, you can only go on so long with the same act. Sonic313 Subj: The game Date: 93-12-30 20:08:46 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I thinck that the ideal Sonic game would use an incorporation of the bonus levels in all the Sonics. You would have a life bar, but your life bar's length would be determinned by the number of rings collected. Getting hit would only take one or two rings, not all. Also, if there were multiple endings and ways to go through th game it would be cool. It would send it's replay value through the roof. In between zones you couls be running to the next zone with a view simmilar to the bonus levels in Sonic 2. There would be forks in the road and things like that that would lead to different zones. And you would be able to choose from Sonic, Tails, and Sally, and maybee some new characters. like the racoon that is in the sonic arcade game that looked so cool but never came out. And maybee Robotnick could get a friend to join in the havoc. Post your suggestions, this is getting interesting. EchoeSubj: Re: Echoe Date: 93-12-30 20:12:25 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Now there are some good ideas! How about incorporating some role-playing elements? Not the "hard" role-playing, and not all the time. Maybe a setup like TG & E 2, which was suprisingly different than the original. Sonic313Subj: Re:Here's what I think... Date: 93-12-30 20:21:34 EST From: S Stryker Posted on: America Online I would like to see many more secrets in this game. mNewer games don't seem to last as long as older games did because they held many more secrets. For instance SMB3 (Yes, Nintendo bashers SMB3, wanna make somethin about it! =) was probably one of the best games of all time, at least it was if you count the fact that it was the best selling game of all time. But one of the things that made it the best is the secrets. Many secret worlds, hidden rooms, and I don't mean codes. One thing I'd have like to have seen in Sonic 2 is the Hidden Palace Zone. I want to see something hard to find, but worth the effort if you do. And maybe we could add some real powerups to add a little variety to gameplay. Subj: Re:I'm with Han! Date: 93-12-30 20:25:03 EST From: S Stryker Posted on: America Online Turning Mario into a racoon was a great idea... well I guess I mean the powerups (of the racoon and various creatures) were cool, not the suits themselves. But I SERIOUSLY would like to see a little more action than just jump and run. Some cool powerups would be just the extra addition I would like to see.Subj: S3 Date: 93-12-30 22:31:16 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I think that some role playing elemens would be good. Also, they need to put lots of hidden zones that can be accesed by finding and figuring out some clues that they might slip to you whenever you manage to find an emerald. And I think Sonic should be able to drive some vehicles to, not just Robotnick. In Rocket Night dventures you get to drive that huge robot to battle one of the bosses. I think something like that would be cool. Also, if they were to put DPA in it would never be the same challenge twice. If we put our heads together we could become ou own video game company. Now would'nt that be interesting?!! P.S. Thanx to Sonic313 for the compliment. Much Abliged! EchoeSubj: Price Date: 93-12-30 23:44:04 EST From: DrCaligari Posted on: America Online BTW, Electronnics Btq is pre-selling the game for $59.99 (or $49.99 with rebate.) At this price Sonic seems alot more reasonable. (Of course, you don't get that so called "FREE" Sonic music CD.) :)Subj: Re:Sonic 3 Date: 93-12-30 23:52:08 EST From: Dayol Posted on: America Online Because the big magazines haven't covered Sonic 3 I have a feeling that it is juct Sonic CD without CD music and sound. Sega has pulled this before by converting carts to cheesy CD titlesSubj: Sonic Stuff Date: 93-12-30 23:52:08 EST From: Sir LOKI Posted on: America Online I wish they would eat up all the memory of the cart by bringing ONLY bouns levels, since Sega won`t update the side scrolling, or add ANY kind of power-ups, the side scrolling is getting DAMN old!!! (Sonic313: Their ARE emralds in Sonic CD, that is the point of the "3D" bonus levels, when you kill all the flying things, you get one.)Subj: Thats ALFERS! Date: 93-12-31 17:19:02 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Sshheshh...if your gona yell at me call me by the RIGHT name. :D You have some verey good points. I wouldn't mind another tree level,but it would have to be done differently than in the other versions. Some more power ups WOULD be most appreciated. Also,I wish they would use more buttons,maybe Sonic could also have a flip kick or a berserk move? And hopfully they can get talls worked in there a bit better than the last one. (2 player is fine but the squshed screens made it slow down alot,and playing 2 player in a one player game,the 2nd player would allways lose tails when sonic ran him off the screen). As I said,the emeralds add in the 2nd ending,but there too hard to get,It would be better to put them IN the levels. And as for Sonic3 being a rehash ofthe sonic CD,you can forget it,sonic CD was made for a reson,to take advantage of the Memory,sonics levels and enemys are now mucho megabytes. I havn't seen sonic3 anywhere so I'm just saying what i think should be in it. And Is say keep the bonus rounds,I mean the last 2 envolved tricks that are not common in genesis games. (like scaling. :D)Subj: Re:Sir LOKI Date: 93-12-31 17:24:52 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online No, there are NOT chaos emeralds in Sonic CD, they have "Time Stones". I know they look the same, but it was nice for a change. Sonic313Subj: Sonic Date: 93-12-31 19:08:38 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I like the idea of the emeralds but with the six button controller now out it would be interesting if you start out with the standard Sonic moves and when you get an emerald you then get some sort of new power. I'm still itching to see Sonic get in some sort of machine and go against Robotnick fairly. EchoeSubj: Sonic 3 description Date: 93-12-31 22:03:06 EST From: JasonTE Posted on: America Online I got the latest EB catalog in the mail today. It has a picture of Sonic 3's box, with the following description of the game: "Sonic is back for a third, full-scale adventure. Offers 1 or 2 player, split-screen, simultaneous action on a 16 meg cartridge with a new Game Save feature. Seven all-new levels are 3 times bigger than the levels in Sonic 2. Features never-before-seen special stages, new powers-up and moves, and new badniks for Sonic and Tails, to rescue." The price is $59.99. :- ) JasonTESubj: Re:Sonic 3 description Date: 93-12-31 23:19:26 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Well, that about says it. We were all dreading it, but our wishes for a new, improved Sonic game with different things aren't going to happen. I like the emerald idea about new moves. There still is hope for some things.... Sonic313Subj: Time Stones Date: 94-01-01 03:12:51 EST From: Sir LOKI Posted on: America Online They CALL them time stones, but just between you and me, they really are emralds... :) Subj: Hey Sonic 313 Date: 94-01-01 19:22:52 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I think you and i should compose a text file on all the things that we would make a Sonic Game in to and then send it to Sega. Who nows, we could be writing what will be Sonic 4. EchoeSubj: Well... Date: 94-01-01 20:31:11 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Echo,You could try,But I highly doubt sega would listen to 2 people. The thing about gaining new moves with the emralds is cool. (mega man any one?) ;DSubj: Re:Well... Date: 94-01-01 20:58:17 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Sega would much rather have don nothings like you continue to pump money in the same old game, but it's not gonna happen!! Sonic313Subj: My position stands Date: 94-01-01 23:02:25 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Like I said a few days back, totally revamping the game would be stupid. There are a lot of people who like the existing format. And, like I said, additions would be better than starting over. Ideas for new power-ups would be nice (Like something to make you grow larger and smaller, like the lasers in the final round of Sonic CD). Multi-Player, if done better than it was in Sonic 2, would be a great idea. I does have it too. But mine, and most people's, concern is length. They need to be longer and harder. Have a difficulty meter in the options menu. -HanSubj: Sega Date: 94-01-02 13:46:12 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I think that Sega will listen because if they want us gamers to continue dropping 60-70 dollars at the drop of a hat then it better be the type of game that we would like. Therefore I think that they would seriouslly consider or idea's. bye the way, is Sonic made by Sega, like Eternal Champions was, or by a development house, like Gunstar Heroes was? EchoeSubj: I dunno Date: 94-01-02 14:06:52 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online They may listen. It depends on the number of letters thay recieve, and also what they say. If every letter suggests something different, they not really gonna take a good look at them. But if a lot of letters say similar things, maybe sega will get the idea and listen a little. HanSubj: Sure... Date: 94-01-02 14:17:18 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Sega will listen,But not to just 2 people. I Mean what kind of company does a million doller project because a few kids an a BBS system want them too?Subj: Re:Sure... Date: 94-01-02 18:23:50 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online If all of the people that we now that agree with our idea's send letters we would be sending letters from all accross the country and then they would have to listen. Send your thoughts and ideas about what S3 should be and I will make a list. Hope to hear from you soon. EchoeSubj: Sonic Date: 94-01-02 19:13:53 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Sonic is pure Sega, but the first one did say made by Sonic team, probably a group of Sega developers. Oh yeah, Alfers, do you ever look on the bright side? AND I AM NOT A KID! Sonic313Subj: pictures and more information Date: 94-01-02 19:30:12 EST From: JasonTE Posted on: America Online The January GF has pictures of Sonic 3 and a little bit of new information on the game. The graphics seem to be only a little improved. It's supposed to be the longest Sonic game yet and it should have new play mechanics and a new character named "Knuckles". The following are three stage names: "Azure Lake", "Balloon Park", and "Chrome Gadget". From the pictures, it appears that there are a lot of different types of stages...grass, snow, stones, water, etc. The snow scene reminds me of the scene in Strider where you run down that steep, snowy hill, picking up speed as you go. A 3D stage is shown too. It looks like a bonus round. In that stage, you seem to run along the checkered surface of a planet, picking up items as you run. GF promises more coverage in the next issue. :- ) JasonTE Subj: What I think Date: 94-01-02 19:32:13 EST From: DASIL644 Posted on: America Online I like all of your ideas for what Sonic 3 should be, especially the one about how Sonic should be able to fight Robotnik with his own machine or robot. I think that during the levels Sonic and Tails should have to look for different parts to make a machine or robot to kill Robotnik with . Then at the end when they get to Robotnik they can make the robot and fight him with it. If they can't find all the parts then they can just fight him the way they did in Sonic 1 and 2. During the levels some of the animals that Sonic save can give him clues to where the partsto make a robot might be. Subj: Re:What I think Date: 94-01-03 19:24:19 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Now that is an excellent idea. Or there is a ready made machine at the end of each level and during the game you find peices to a great big machine that you fight Robotnick with at the end of the game. This would make the game that much more interesting.Subj: Thanks Date: 94-01-03 19:53:11 EST From: DASIL644 Posted on: America Online Thanks! Do you think Sega will listen to our ideas? I hope so. It's obviously too late for Sega to make Sonic 3 using our ideas, but maybe they'll make a Sonic 4. They really should listen to us since we're the ones who buy and play the games anyway.Subj: That's be cool Date: 94-01-03 19:54:45 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Yeah, that does sound cool. It would add more of a puzzle type game play rather than just run around. Searching for important items in the stages would be great. That's what they did in the GG sonic's and I liked it. HanSubj: Sonic 4 or the big prize Date: 94-01-03 20:24:44 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online The Saturn could possibly be out by the end of the year.(Sega is 9 months ahead) Perhaps these ideas could go toward the first Saturn Sonic game, even though Sonic the Arcade game is rumoured to be first. Could they call it, "The Future Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog"? Who knows. Let's bring Super Sonic back, this time meaner. This was one of the greatest secrets ever! Sonic313Subj: Sonic Spinball Date: 94-01-03 22:03:47 EST From: Barefoot10 Posted on: America Online I may be in the wrong folder here, but listening to you all discuss (banter) Sonic 3 really bugs me. Don't you consider Sonic Spinball a different game? IT should be "Sonic 3." I was surprised when SEGA announced a "third" Sonic. Isn't it really the FOURTH. Sonic is the whole reason I picked Genesis over SNES originally. I got Sonic 2 AND Spinball. I now have Sega CD, but some of your reviews on Sonic CD have made me a little wary of getting it. In the end we all have the power to influence what games are successes and which ones are failures. It's called the DOLLAR! Thanks to what I hear and read, I can make an educated decision about which games I buy. SEGA KNOWS THIS! Long live Sonic!!!! Barefoot10 (a 28 year old Sonic fanatic)Subj: Re:Sonic Spinball Date: 94-01-04 19:09:31 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online It is a different style of game and that is why it was not considered a SONIC3. Also. Anyone interested in leaving ideas about what should be in Sonic 4 E-Mail them to me and I will put them all together into a large letter that can be signed by all of us.Subj: What Happened?! Date: 94-01-05 21:26:26 EST From: DASIL644 Posted on: America Online Why aren't the messages available anymore? I wanted to read some of them over! What happened!!!Subj: Never Mind! Date: 94-01-05 21:31:53 EST From: DASIL644 Posted on: America Online There must have been something wrong with my computer because now I'm able to get the messages. By the way, Barefoot10, I also love playing Sonic. That was the reason why I got Sega. I was just suggesting some ways Sega could make it better.Subj: Sonic 3 changes Date: 94-01-08 20:21:40 EST From: Wizard KC Posted on: America Online I think all these ideas are exellent. Especially the one about Sonic getting his own robot. I've got some Ideas of my own. Like Sonic being able to Race with some of Robotniks badniks or him in his Eggo-Matic on his feet or maybe even in his own car. Another idea is that instead of having all th regular powereups(you know, super shoes, ten rings, ect.) like having one wich allows Sonic to glide or even some bad ones to give it more challenge. WizSubj: Re:Sonic 3 changes Date: 94-01-08 20:55:43 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Those ideas sound good. How about if you used the perspective of the bonus rounds from S2 while you are racing in these vehicles. That would be interesting.Subj: If anyone thinks... Date: 94-01-10 00:16:33 EST From: Wonder Mnd Posted on: America Online Sonic is for kids.....WRONG! My fiancee is a 4th year medical student at Columbia. And what does her and her med school buddies do when they are not cutting people up? THEY PLAY SONIC!!!!! If there is anyone out there who knows how to get through level two of the Spinball, please help! These doctors are driving me crazy! Wonder MndSubj: Re:If anyone thinks... Date: 94-01-10 19:53:39 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I left a post off how to do it in SonicLand. Also who evr said Sonic was just for kids?Subj: Febuary second? Date: 94-01-15 21:36:15 EST From: JacobW6415 Posted on: America Online My EB near me had pre-purchasing going on. They also said Feb 2. I thought this wasn't coming out out till September, what in the world is happenning? JacobSubj: Re:Febuary second? Date: 94-01-15 23:22:31 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Who said it was coming out in September. If you check the EB catalog or read the January Game Fan then you'll see that it does come out on February 2nd. Sega is calling it Hedgehog day.Subj: Sonic improvements Date: 94-01-17 12:58:53 EST From: Dagger Posted on: America Online Here's an idea I had to improve Sonic. I like the robot idea to begin with, and finding pieces would definitely be cool. Also, here's one idea that I think would work. How about the ability to use rings as some sort of projectile weapon? That way, you have a long distance attack, but you have to be careful about wasting life/ammo. Or maybe the robot suit you get uses rings for fuel, to add a little more challenge. It would keep you on your toes and searching like mad. DaggerSubj: Re:Sonic improvements Date: 94-01-17 13:07:31 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I like the long didstance attack idea. Send it to Sonic 313 so that he can add i to our ideas folder and then ask him to send the folder to you with a carbon copy to me. Echoe19Subj: Re:Sonic improvements Date: 94-01-18 21:21:50 EST From: LeslieT500 Posted on: America Online i think that people should stick with sonic 1.YOU COULD GET BETTER GAMES FOR $69.YOU COULD JUST WATCH THE SHOW. Subj: Re:Sonic improvements Date: 94-01-18 21:26:29 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Has anoyne noticed how Dr. Robotnicks mean bean machine has better art than the cartoon it is based on?? EchoeSubj: Sonic 3 in EGM Date: 94-01-19 18:15:18 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I just got the new EGM and it blew out the first couple of levels in Sonic 3. There is a new vharacter named Nuckels and he is a spiny egg-laying ant eater who is the last descendant of the floating island tribe. He was brainwashed by Robotnik to believe that Sonic was the enemy and to get the Chaos emeralds. There is a battery back up, an all new time attack mode, and the better split screen game. There are three new shields. The flame, the water, and lightning shields which enhances your character with new and special powers. Tails can now swim and fly. Here are some of the names of the new zones: Angel Island, Hydro City, Marble Garden, Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base. These new zones make Sonic III look like the best yet and for what I can see this Sonic adventure is going to blow you away! Echoe!!Subj: TV commercials Date: 94-01-19 22:37:44 EST From: CplHicks Posted on: America Online Anyone else seen the TV commercials? The game looks great! Like that surfing thing or whatever it was! Cool! CplHicksSubj: Re:TV commercials Date: 94-01-20 19:52:51 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online It does look good. I trhink the surfing was the new snow level where you ski on a snowboard. EchoeSubj: More info... Date: 94-01-21 00:23:05 EST From: McN Man Posted on: America Online If you want some look in the new GamePro or GamePlayers. They have previews for it. The specs look awesome. McN Man Da MoSubj: Sonic Hedgehog Date: 94-01-21 21:34:09 EST From: JG Gennick Posted on: America Online My cousin's kids have what I think must be the first Sonic Hedgehog game. Is there a way to start the game at a level other than 1? jonathanSubj: SONIC3 Date: 94-01-21 23:17:50 EST From: ReptileMK1 Posted on: America Online Sonic3 looks good in graphics and sound and also has a character on it thats trying to steal the chaos emeralds if i rated it def.10+Subj: New stages Date: 94-01-22 14:39:41 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Another cool thing added to Sonic 3 is the timeattack zones are totally different from the zones of the normal game. This way, there are 5 extra zones to play in. Cool! HanSubj: Re:New stages Date: 94-01-22 20:53:01 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I also heard that the two player zones will be different than the normal zones giving even more extra zones. This game just keeps getting better.Subj: battery backup Date: 94-01-22 21:31:15 EST From: ReptileMK1 Posted on: America Online yes its true another good adition it has battery backup,the backgrounds SEGA covering up with great color drawn backgrounds that have stuff like mountains it makes SNES look like its got sorry colorsSubj: New character Date: 94-01-23 16:16:09 EST From: BRIANM419 Posted on: America Online I saw a screen of the game & saw this guy that looked like Super Sonic without his sparks plus 2 yellow tails sticking out of ih behind doing a Super Sunic Spin Attack. WHO WAS THAT GUY? BrianM419 Subj: Re:New character Date: 94-01-23 17:00:29 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I believe the character you are thinking of it Knucles. He's a Echidna (don't ask me what that is!). He's on Robotnik's side. You can also play as him in the Race Mode. Han Subj: No more Sonic! Date: 94-01-23 17:01:54 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I heard something very disturbing. Sonic 3 is the last Sonic game. Offical word from Sega is now that they've completed the trilogy, Sonic's being put to the side for awhile. I hope sega reconsiders this move, or people will be VERY angry! hanSubj: Re:No more Sonic! Date: 94-01-23 17:51:57 EST From: ReptileMK1 Posted on: America Online SEGA wouldnt stop making SONIC games like the mistake NINTENDO made stop making MARIO games where did you hear about this?Subj: Re:No more Sonic! Date: 94-01-23 17:57:29 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Calm down! Sonic Three rounds out th trilogy of games... but Sonic and his friends will be used in new adventures with different storylines. There are rumors of Tails getting his own game. Is it just me or does knuckles look like he's got dreadlooks? EchoeSubj: Sonic 3 Date: 94-01-23 22:16:25 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Could this be.... A DREAM SONIC GAME????? I'll decide that on Feb. 2, but it sure looks like it..... Sonic313Subj: Re:No more Sonic! Date: 94-01-23 22:17:48 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online YEAH! That was my first thought when you said that. OH NO! No way dudes, I don't want the trilogy to end, tell me where you got this information, PLEASE!! Sonic313Subj: Questions Date: 94-01-24 02:34:58 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Look at the time on this message, but geez I gotta know. First of all, an "enchia" is not in my dictionary that has more words than people on planet Earth and weighs 50 lbs. Second, is Knuckles the evil enchia or is that a seperate character. HELP ME!! Sonic313Subj: Re:Questions Date: 94-01-24 17:37:23 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Knucles is the evil echinda, and an echidna is a anteater type thing. In response to the questions about the end of Sonic, I am quoting directly from EGM "the company is putting their mascot, Sonic, out to pasture-at least sort of. ...Sonic 3 puts the finishing touches on the trilogy and thet future releases will contain a different type of play mechanics all together." If this is true, we may never see the same type of Sonic game again! We'll be stuck will games with Sonic as a main character only to attact buyers. I dunno, but it doesn't sound good! HanSubj: More info Date: 94-01-24 17:43:44 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online For all the people out there who don't know much about this game, I'll give you all I know.... 1.There are new shields, the flame, water, and lightning. The flame shield can hurt baddies, the water shield gives you air and the ability to jump higher, and the lightning shield attracts ring. 2. The zone names are:Angle Island, Hydro City,Marble Garden, Carnaval Night, Ice Cap, Launch Base. 3. Robotnik's trying to rebuild the death egg from part 2. 4. Tails will be the follower 5. The time attack has totally different levels, they are:Azure Lake, Ballon Park, Chrome Gadget, Desert Palace, and Endless Mine. 6. There are 2 bonus zones, a stange back view type one, and a cool gumball machine one. There are entered by mixing the ways from Sonic 1 and 2. All this info is from EGM, if you haven't seen any graphics, they ar incredible. I have a scanner, if you want me to scan these pictures, then send them to you, ask me through E-Mail. HanSolo513Subj: Sonic back again... Date: 94-01-24 20:08:18 EST From: JacobW6415 Posted on: America Online After Sonic 3, Sonic will never be the same...because of Super Sonic for Saturn. I have no clue when, but sources tell me that Sega is working hard on his new Saturn adventure. Their may be a Tails game on genesis. I will tell you any new info. as soon as I get it. JacobSubj: Saturn! Date: 94-01-24 22:49:53 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Geez, why do these companies have to bring out new systems EVERY YEAR! It really ticks me off! Why can't they be happy with what they have! I have all the systems and this means I'm gonna have to get another! Geez... HanSubj: Re:Saturn! Date: 94-01-25 09:24:47 EST From: Iam Online Posted on: America Online Every year? The Genesis came out 4 years ago! Subj: Re:Saturn! Date: 94-01-25 16:47:18 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online ok, so maybe not every year! But they do keep 'um coming, you do have to admit to that! Subj: Sonic the Hedgehog's Future Date: 94-01-25 18:44:24 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Don't worry, Sonic WILL be back. His future on the Genesis is pretty grim, as we will probably only see puzzle type games with little action from now on(look at the SNES with Mario). But Sega has other systems, like the Sega CD and Saturn. Sonic Arcade and Super Sonic the Hedgehog will be avaliable for the Saturn, and a very hush-hush project is going on at Sega with a new CD adventure. Trust me. I have my sources... Sonic313Subj: Sonic & Puzzle Games Date: 94-01-25 20:16:03 EST From: DrCaligari Posted on: America Online If future Sonic puzzle games are as good as Mean Bean Machine, you won't hear any complaints out of me! BTW, if you haven't rented or bought MBM, try it! It is a cross between Columns and Tetris with very well animated ..er..beans and opponents. This is one game Die Hard didn't overrate.Subj: Re:Sonic & Puzzle Games Date: 94-01-25 21:04:10 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I think the best thing companies could do would be to join into one huge company, come out with the ultimate in home gaming systems, and then supportate it well. But who are we kidding?? Reality Check please. The Tails adventure will be the next Sonic type game. Sega is also bringing in more of the characters from the comics and cartoons. Trust me. I have my own sources.Subj: Re:Sonic & Puzzle Games Date: 94-01-26 00:54:07 EST From: Zylo Posted on: America Online >>>I think the best thing companies could do would be to join into one huge company, come out with the ultimate in home gaming systems, and then supportate it well.<<< Without competition between companies, there would be _NO_ great games. --ZyloSubj: 3 out in K-B Date: 94-01-26 02:26:42 EST From: Trencher32 Posted on: America Online I saw SOnic 3 being played at KB Toy at the mall today and it looked pretty nice. The 3 different shields added a little variety which the other sonics lack. Still I think they need to add more bells and whistles as Mario has. The re-playability of the old Sonic games are not too good in my opinion.Subj: Replay Date: 94-01-26 16:57:28 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I donno, I think Sonic can be played over and over and still be enjoyable. I still play Sonic 2. Sonic CD doesn't have quite as much though. HanSubj: Re:Replay Date: 94-01-26 19:54:53 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online The replay value of the Sonic Adventures falls in the huge and explorable levels. I have been playing the original more than I would care to admit and probably still haven't found all the great stuff. As to the support of the system of our dreams it is exactly that. Never gonna happen. Just waitn fo the Saturn now.Subj: How much??? Date: 94-01-26 20:36:57 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online How much do you think a Saturn will cost, and it's games??? HanSubj: Re:How much??? Date: 94-01-26 21:23:16 EST From: Great Wyrm Posted on: America Online I heard that the Saturn will cost between $300 and $500, at least at first. Games will probably be in the $60 to $80 range... if they go any higher (like the Neo-Geo's $200 games) not many people will buy them, unless they are fanatics. Do any of you have any idea of what the Sonic games will be like on the Saturn? -Great WyrmSubj: Re:How much??? Date: 94-01-28 12:12:13 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Rumor has it that the Saturn's cost will be reduced due to a ne2w styling and cheaper chips. They are trying to reach the price set by the Atari Jaguar. EchoeSubj: Re: Hey Sonic 313 Date: 94-01-29 14:45:00 EST From: SonicHedge Posted on: America Online That is a good idea, of sending your ideas to sega, butI hear Sonic3 is the last of a trilogy!Subj: Re: Hey Sonic 313 Date: 94-01-30 12:56:59 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online If you have any good ideas then feel free to send them to me as I have not yet finished the letter to SEGA.Subj: Re:Replay Date: 94-01-30 19:05:22 EST From: Sonic313 Posted on: America Online Hey, I play Sonic 1 and 2 nearly every day. They are great. See ya all, cancelling my account. Wish I could be here for hedgehog day. Sonic313Subj: Re:Replay Date: 94-01-31 19:58:43 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online It's a pity that we have lost such a great contributor. Oh well...Regarding Sonic 3, how many people have pre-ordered?Subj: It's Mine, all MINE! Date: 94-02-01 20:03:22 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Yes yes yes! It was released at one of the stores near me a day early! OH MY GOD this game is INCRDIBLE! The graphics are flawless, with no slowdown. The music is VERY good. There is A LOT to find. To give you some idea how long it is, it took me 6:00+ to finish the first act of the second level. THEY ONLY GET LONGER! I played for an hour and only made it to the 3rd level. For all you who say the other are too short, this one is HARD! The new shields are really cool, and there are TONS of secrets. The bonus zones are cool, both kinds, and how you get to them is cool. They are found in the level, no 50 rings or anything! Even though Sonic CD wasn't as good as expected, this game is everything and more. If I were you, I'd go out and buy in VERY soon tommarrow. P.S. Take a look at the expressions on Tail's face during the Marble Garden boss.Subj: Re:Replay Date: 94-02-02 02:55:31 EST From: Sir LOKI Posted on: America Online Toys-R-Us is holding me one! (I even took off work today to go get it!) So, I like Sonic... :) (Anyone got theirs yet, is it really as good as people have been saying? I`ll find out tomorrow!) Subj: WOW! Date: 94-02-02 15:09:30 EST From: TwinBee Posted on: America Online Oh MAN, is this game COOL! The backgrounds have an amazing amout of depth (parallax scrolling all over the place, not just left and right, UP AND DOWN TOO, and weird warping!!!). Inside the 3D tree has to be seen to be believed. There's even a cool half-ramp jump that flips you in mid-air; and tunnels that really make you sick (this is just the first level). AND THERE IS SO MUCH TO FIND! Sega really made the game that should have been SONIC CD. I have only found the the first few bonus levels, they are pretty strange: limited movement, no chance to correct mistakes; they are almost puzzle-like (but they look darn cool). Much better music than recent efforts, and some pretty wild sound FX. My favorite SONIC game so far, really stands out from the others! I'd buy half of it for twice the price :)! Subj: Re:WOW! Date: 94-02-02 19:16:23 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Yes, this game is incredible! And what you say is all true, and more. There are NO words to descibe how awesome this game is! It's really cool playing with two people because tails can pick up sonic and fly while he's holding on. This allows for A LOT of exploration. The carnival night zone is really fun, and hard (I'm stuck on 2). I recomend this game with FULL confidence, there is nothing you will not like. HanSubj: This is IT! Date: 94-02-02 19:33:28 EST From: How2Flirt Posted on: America Online WOW said it! this is what Mega man X should've been! It's tough so I'll be playing it awhile ... the hydrocity it real cool ... the best effect thus far had to be the Blimp's sounds Whoa! I love sonic and this game keeps Sega #1 in my book, if they made all their games like this Nintendo wouldn't even be around. how2Subj: Sonic 3! Date: 94-02-02 20:55:53 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online This game is INCREDIBLE!! I think this is the most i've EVER paid for a video game, ($64.00) But I think it is definitely worth it!! The graphics are great, and the levels are HUGE. I've made it (so far) all the way to the Balloon Park zone (zone 4), and it took me a couple hours to get there. Each zone has 3 stages, and each stage is both long and hard! I had the hardest time getting past the 3rd zone, and now the 4th is even harder! The special stage is really neat. It takes a lot of practice to get it down, but once you understand how it works, it's preaty neat. And a lot harder than previous Sonic Special zones. The Bonus stage is neat too!!, but so far I haven't quite mastered that one. I definitely recommend this one!!!! -jscSubj: Any Codes? Date: 94-02-02 21:32:50 EST From: DASIL644 Posted on: America Online This game is great! But does anyone know any codes for it?Subj: Sonic 3 Date: 94-02-02 22:22:37 EST From: JasonTE Posted on: America Online A friend got Sonic 3 today, so I got a chance to try it. It's easily the best Sonic game in the series. In fact, it's the best platform game on any system. The graphics and sounds aren't anything great by today's general gaming standards, but they are very good by Genesis standards. There are a lot of improvements in game play, such as new power-ups, new techniques, etc. The game seems to be pretty big and would likely take a while to solve. I was disappointed by the awkward "checkered planet" bonus round and the poor graphics in the two-player split screen mode, but overall the game is good. I can't wait to see Sonic on the Saturn. :- ) JasonTE Subj: back from playing Date: 94-02-02 23:18:11 EST From: How2Flirt Posted on: America Online WOW! Once you think you've seen a cool effect you play the next zone and something else happens to make you freak out! I love standing on those Tops! and those turning columns are a nice effect ... i wish tails would just die, he keeps scewing me up If you get a chance buy this! it won't stay in stores long, BTW DON"T post codes here i want to PLAY through the game geez it's only been out a DAY and you need a cheat ... how2 Subj: Hedgehog Day Time Trials!!!!!! Date: 94-02-02 23:35:32 EST From: TheSpook1 Posted on: America Online ***NOTE: If it is approved, the contest will be moved to its own folder soon. Happy Hedgehog Day! Sonic 3 is now on store shelves everywhere, and to celebrate, the Encrypt club in General Video Games is holding a Sonic Time Trial contest. Just post your lowest times for any level, any Sonic game in this folder. Try to put all your times in ONE POST, please!!! If you beat everyone on one of the later levels, you can gloat. If you have the lowest time for any act in level one on any of the 3 Sonic games, though, you will get your name in the winner's circle in this folder, a GIF of a Sonic trophy, and a collection of codes both Game Genie and non-GG for both Sonics 1+2! (Plus Sonic 3 when codes come out.) No bogus posts, please, winners will be asked to send screen shots thru snail mail, or by GIF if they have access to a scanner. The contest ends 4/12/94. Winners will be posted on that day for later levels, level one acts when all screen shots are received. Good luck and run for your life! ---The Spook EC:14thSubj: Sonic 3 -Thumbs up! Date: 94-02-03 00:49:11 EST From: DrCaligari Posted on: America Online Before I heap praise on this game I must say that I hated Sonic 2 and I brought it back the next day. Sonic 3, on the other hand, is an excelent game! Best of all, it is non-linear (like Sonic 1)! You can go anywhere in this game, not being restricted to one path. Great graphics, nice music, and TWO bonus rounds! Nice job Sega! Subj: Megs Date: 94-02-03 02:36:00 EST From: Trencher32 Posted on: America Online How many megs is Sonic 3? Subj: Sonic 3 Date: 94-02-03 10:14:08 EST From: IamOnline2 Posted on: America Online Its 16 Meg... I agree, this is what the CD should've been! Its sooo much faster than the CD. In my opinion the Competition mode, graphically, is better than Sonic 2. It doesn't have that squashed look, they just shrunk the screen down. I thought the Bonus stages were pretty cool, not a bad effect for a 4 year old machine!! I also liked how the levels continue right at the place you finished at. Subj: I Beat Sonic 3!! Date: 94-02-03 15:02:08 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online Geez, after only playing the game for a day, I already beat it!! The entire game is REALLY cool!! Most of the stages took me more than 8 minutes to get through, and a few of them I even ran out of time in. Sadly, the end of this game is not very exciting, but the final fight is great!!! After you beat the first scene with Dr. Robitnic, you fly away in his plane thing, and land on this platform, where you fight Dr. Robotnic again, and He's got some nasty looking thing attached to him which grabs you!! and it's got spikes on it's head!! But there's a pattern to follow for beating it. (too easy) Then the platform you're standing on blows uip and floats away from the reest of the ship you were on, and you see the ship explode in the distance. wow... One cool thing though is that once you beat the game, if you used the game save feature, it lets you pick any stage to start from!!! -jscSubj: Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-03 18:01:03 EST From: SegaTails Posted on: America Online Help! I'm stuck at a part here where there's this big red cylinder with white triangles on it. There's some thin that looks like this: X X X X That keeps me locked in. Please help me, I'm very fustrated! -SegaTailsSubj: Re:Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-03 19:41:04 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I'm stuck at the same spot, it's after you turn the lights back on! I hate it, I've tried everything, but nothing works. To anyone, what do you do AFTER you turn the light back on??? HanSubj: Re:Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-03 20:23:02 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online I've past the whole game, but I don't know where in the carnival zone you're talking about. Do you mean after you pass act 1?? -jscSubj: Re:Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-03 21:20:03 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I am drolling. This game is amazing. This is an orgy in a cartridge. But, it was to easy to beat.Subj: Re:Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-03 21:51:06 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Nice desciption of a game! Anyway, it's in zone 2, right after you hit the button and turn the lights back on. There is an area with 2 of those circle things, the a hallway, then this room. It trappes you in, the only thing in there is one of those spinning bouncy things. It's probably a trap HanSubj: Re:Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-04 03:22:39 EST From: Trencher32 Posted on: America Online I have walked myself into a trap on two different occasions in the carnival zone. While walking upsidedown on the gravity belts I have walked into hidden sections where there is no way out. Also those spinning bouncy cylinders can be bobbed up and down by standing on them and pushing up and down while it sweeps. Go with the momentum and youll be able to get out.Subj: codes Date: 94-02-04 18:13:36 EST From: Kathlee123 Posted on: America Online ARE THERE ANY CODES FOR SONIC 3 THANKSSubj: Re:codes Date: 94-02-04 18:30:34 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online The game just came out! Why do you want code already!Subj: Re:codes Date: 94-02-04 19:32:59 EST From: Sean OK Posted on: America Online Right. Who needs codes anyway? Well, just to confirm the rest of the reports. Sonic 3 is a kick butt game. I realy enjoy it. Sean.Subj: I did it! Date: 94-02-04 22:54:27 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I finally beat Sonic 3. I would have done it earlier, but I keep getting stuck at a certain point. The final battle is really cool, but the ending sucked :( I hope the ending with all the emeralds is better. HanSubj: Sonic praise Date: 94-02-05 01:04:21 EST From: DanAmrich Posted on: America Online Gotta admit, Sega's done a nice job. The gameplay is still classic Sonic (for better or worse) but everything else that could have been improved, was. Also, I LIKE the split screen this time around--no slowdown, no flicker, choice of character, and five original, dedicated racetracks. Sonic 2 made competition possible, but Sonic 3 makes it playable. :) DanAmrich (type keyword CRITICS for more gaming fun)Subj: Re:Sonic 2-player Date: 94-02-05 01:11:34 EST From: MisterZ22 Posted on: America Online I'll join the bandwagon with praise for sonic 3. The only question I have is in the 2-player mode whats the deal with the buttons you can jump on? they don't seem to do anything. Also the stuff that flies around like a ring, a bannana, etc. what do they do for you, and finally is the point to be the first the pass the starting spot five times. Someone help me i'm confussed!!!Subj: Cool! Date: 94-02-05 16:52:07 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online I just Got Sonic 3 after seeing all these post saying how good it is. For one,I like the begginig. Sorta gices it a Tech-feel,haveing a raytraced sonic run into the Sega Sighn. I would have really liked a better options screen though,like one with a sound test. The stages are presented with a nice Pattern of putting out the Stage and round,like the last 2. Also between each stage theres a small chracter cinima. The music as abit imporved and I liked how some of the boss soundtracks had a little vocal in it but I like the last ones too. (Though sonic 1 & 2 where like the same) BTW,Anyone here sonics original theme music? so far I havn't :D. The blimp was a nice featur too! All in all a Sonic Trade Mark game. I can't wait for a code though!Subj: Carnival Night? Date: 94-02-05 17:29:46 EST From: PeterB6987 Posted on: America Online I can't seem to get out of this room with one of those spinning cylinders that bob up and down (in act 2 after you turn the lights back on). I can get it pretty far down, but never far enough to escape. Please E-Mail me with a solution.Subj: Re:Carnival Night?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 94-02-05 18:28:09 EST From: TwinBee Posted on: America Online SAME FOR ME TOO!!! HOW DO YOU GET OUT OF THIS ROOM!!!!! AAAHHHH!!! Subj: Re:Carnival Night?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 94-02-05 19:34:35 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online This room has stumped many many people, but here's how to do it!... When you're on the spinning thing, you can press up and down to move it. Keep doing this in rythum with the bobbing (when it moves up, hold up. When it move down, hold down). You can get down far enough to go under that area. HanSubj: I got SUPER SONIC!!!! Date: 94-02-05 19:37:12 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I finally did all the special stages and was Super Sonic! He's much fast than in Sonic 2, plus you can choose when you want to become him. In sonic 2 you became super whenever you jumped with 50 ring. Now, only button A makes you super, buttons B and C still do the normal jumping moves. The ending still sucks just as bad though, but who cares! HanSubj: Correction.... Date: 94-02-05 23:09:10 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I was wrong about that last post... You don't only press a to change, you press any button, but you do have to press it twice, so you still get to choose when to change HanSubj: Re:Correction.... Date: 94-02-06 13:36:33 EST From: Sean OK Posted on: America Online Was the ending still just as bad? SeanSubj: Re:Carnival Help Date: 94-02-06 14:42:06 EST From: BigDanBear Posted on: America Online Yes.... You have to Bob up & down on those cynliders.... But it helps (a lot) to have the second controller in and bob with both Sonic & Tails... It's much easier that way (assuming you have four arms, anyway)Subj: Re:Carnival Help Date: 94-02-06 16:11:28 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Yep,I found that part you guys all where stuck on. I Though Han was talking about something else. I thought it might have to do with jumping on it at the right times,but it was almost impossible,so I pressed up and down and it worked great. (And I felt pretty stupid wasting 1 life and 5 minutes on that stupid thing!) I finally compleated the carnavle zone with no lifes left,no rings,and 20 seconds left on the clock. (I found a reall easy way to beat Robotnik on the C Zone). Also,if your just starting out,use tails,His flying ability is extreamly helpful! I'll be needing a code soon though since this Ice stage is REAL Hard!Subj: Re:Correction.... Date: 94-02-06 23:10:54 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Yeah, the ending was still bad. It's the same, but instead of normal Sonic jumping into a goofy pose, Super Sonic does (and the pose is goofier) HanSubj: Re:Carnival Help Date: 94-02-06 23:11:38 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online There's no need to jump, just press up and down on the controller... HanSubj: Re:Carnival Help Date: 94-02-07 14:46:41 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Yes,I know,I just found that out. :) BTW,anyone notice a few "movement glitches"? Probably #1,in stage 5,the ice world,You step on the first button and go down the big hole than fin your self killed after the screen has moved at light speed,down so fast it crushes you? Subj: Re:Cool! Date: 94-02-07 17:56:28 EST From: S Stryker Posted on: America Online I got it too. The problem is they don't explain a lot in the game manual. I didn't see anything about the cylinders (I thought you had to jump on them) and I didn't understand the bannanas (sp?) and stuff either! It's a great game. I got two games this year, (MMX and Sonic 3, I like both equally, but is MMX was a little harder I would probably like that more, but...) I didn't like the music as much as 2's (no theme song!!) I love the stages!!! (Marble Garden is what Marble Zone or whatever the 1's second stage was should have been!) And the carnival zone and hydrocity are great!! The SFX are great for Genesis. It is an overall great game!Subj: Re:Carnival Help Date: 94-02-07 18:00:44 EST From: S Stryker Posted on: America Online You know what happened to me? I was fighting Robotnik in the Marble Zone and suddenly (realize my timer was at something like 4 minutes) the screen said Game Over! But it took me back to the lampost as if I had died normally!! Weird huh?Subj: Final Boss Date: 94-02-07 18:12:26 EST From: Tempe Jim Posted on: America Online How do you beat the ending boss with the arms? I can't even seem to get one hit on him. This game seemed easy, too easy, I would like to think that I got better at Sonic and my skills made me king!?!?!?!Subj: Re:Final Boss Date: 94-02-07 21:50:42 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online The game isn't easy if it didn't have that save function. this game would probably be the best if the save feature was there,but the levels where SUPER Long! That would make the game last alot longer! Subj: Re:Final Boss Date: 94-02-07 23:10:04 EST From: Trencher32 Posted on: America Online To kill the final boss you need to hit him between his arms and head and hit the button again as you are hitting him to give yourself that temporary shield. To be more clear you need to jump over his arms as he's coming at you, and hit him a little below the dome bubble. Hit the button as you hit the boss. Whats this about bananas??Subj: Re:Final Boss Date: 94-02-08 17:11:03 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Yeah, it's much longer than the other game. In one sitting, it yakes me 25 to 30 minutes to beat them. I just finished playing the whole game and it took me 90 minutes. It's long, but not too hard. HanSubj: Bananas Date: 94-02-08 18:08:01 EST From: Boston Jim Posted on: America Online I think that the banana reference was to the two player race game. There are bananas that you can slip on (and send you flying! Funny!) and buttons that you can jump on, which trigger traps to slow down your opponent. Bananas and treasures can be activated by selecting the "Power Up On" icon on the two player selection screen. So about those screen selection codes... Boston JimSubj: Read Important Date: 94-02-08 18:10:29 EST From: Woobie9534 Posted on: America Online Life's cool be young play SONIC #3Subj: Re:codes Date: 94-02-08 21:01:32 EST From: Col Dijon Posted on: PC-Link Here's an interesting little tidbit. If you have a Pro Action Replay, the same codes for Sonic 2 work with Sonic 3 (except for the Sonic 2 code that gives you access to the Hidden Palace Zone (YES, IT'S TRUE!))Subj: No HPZ Date: 94-02-09 10:58:31 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online I don't want to hear it! There's no HPZ in Sonic 2, and let's not get started about it. HanSubj: Re:No HPZ Date: 94-02-09 11:56:21 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online What's this about a Hidden Palace Zone? I've never heard anything about that before!!! And how can the codes from Sonic2 work for Sonic3 when Sonic3 doesn't have the Sound Test Mode?!??!? -jscSubj: Sonic Secret Chat Room Date: 94-02-09 12:14:53 EST From: SEMPAI DAN Posted on: America Online Anyone who is interested in Sonic 3, mail me some useful info and I'll give you a password to a Sonic 3 Chat room. If you don't want to mail me, post it in the catagory: Sonic 3 Encrypt Contest. Thanks.Subj: Codes... Date: 94-02-09 15:21:42 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online First,the HPZ Was REMOVED from the game when it came out! Also,His post says PRO ACTION REPLAY (read the not so fine print),no sound test needed.Subj: Re:Codes... Date: 94-02-10 14:57:41 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online Ahhh.. I see.... Well... either way, who needs codes for Sonic 3 when the game has the game save feature, and you can pick the act you want anyways! Plus, even after you beat the game, if you didn't have all the emeralds, it will save the emeralds you collect later, until you have all 6 of 'em, and then you can beqat the game as Super Sonic as explained by Han earlier.... cool eh? -jscSubj: Last boss Date: 94-02-10 15:34:54 EST From: Sean OK Posted on: America Online Anyone got any hints for me on how to beat that armored menace? SeanSubj: carnival zone Date: 94-02-10 18:03:02 EST From: IdaG Posted on: America Online help! i'm stuck on level 4 on a cylinder, i can't get it low enough to get off. also no codes as yet, seems the engineers don't give tem out so the people at genises has to play the game to find them a sonic addictSubj: Re:Last boss Date: 94-02-10 18:53:40 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Here's a easy way to do the boss... When he flies at you, stand on the opposite side of the screen (all the way over). When he's coming toward you, jump at the same hight he is at. You have to hit him between the spikes and the hands. When you hit him, press the button again to get an insta-shield. It will protect you. Then dodge him when he goes to the bottom of the screen, and repeat the process. HanSubj: Re:carnival zone Date: 94-02-10 18:54:50 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online This topic have been dicussed about 4 times.. but I'll tell ya again You can press up and down on the controller to move them without jumping. It's easy this way. HanSubj: Re:Codes... Date: 94-02-10 19:58:13 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online The instructions said you can only select acts-stages after you beat the game,how can you do this befor?Subj: Re:Codes... Date: 94-02-10 20:47:37 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online Well, you can't select the stages at all until you pass the game the first time, but it doesn't matter if you have any emeralds or not! -jscSubj: Problem... Date: 94-02-10 22:54:17 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online .....I'm racing through the ice cap zone at incredible speeds. I pass the first loop, the second. Suddenly I hit the ramp and BOOM, I stop! This isn't the only place in the game like this, there are a lot of problems with hills at high speeds in this game. Has anyone else found this EXTREMLY bothersome. HanSubj: Carnival Knight HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 94-02-10 23:05:37 EST From: JamesC5431 Posted on: America Online I need help on the the 2nd act of the Carnival Zone. I'm in this long vertical shaft and there is a wall that shut me in. On the way down there's a spinning red and white diamond thingy! WHAT IN THE WORLD DO I DO?????????????????????Subj: Re:Carnival Night?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 94-02-10 23:11:36 EST From: JamesC5431 Posted on: America Online I'm also stuck there! E-Mail me!Subj: Wow!! Date: 94-02-11 14:20:02 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online People,Everyone!!! The Shaft bouncy things (Like the one everyone is getting cought at in Carnaval Zone 2) Can be controoled by simply standing on them and press UP or DOWN. Subj: Re: Carnival Zone Date: 94-02-11 18:02:56 EST From: AminahG Posted on: America Online I'm stuck At that part too! I can't go any Farther! HELP!!!!!!!!!Subj: LOL!!! Date: 94-02-11 23:47:13 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online (Not saying A WORD) ;)Subj: Re:Problem... Date: 94-02-12 11:43:49 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Yes. It is one glitch in the programming that they haven't found yet. To bad they missed it in the production copy.Subj: Codes Date: 94-02-12 12:00:38 EST From: Blazer 200 Posted on: America Online I wonder if theres a Debug mode out there for Sonic 3. That would be cool. E-mail me or post them if you find any.Subj: Look at past posts! Date: 94-02-12 12:34:29 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online To all the people stuck in Carnival Zone 2, LOOK AT THE POST FROM A FEW DAYS AGO! We've told you before! HanSubj: carnival zone Date: 94-02-12 13:38:57 EST From: HubertS902 Posted on: America Online that bit is so troublesome that if you should happen to call segas game counsellers you get a computer recourding of how to get past it. Subj: Re:carnival zone Date: 94-02-12 23:29:23 EST From: HanSolo513 Posted on: America Online Really! Ha ha, they must have realized their mistake! HanSubj: Re:carnival zone Date: 94-02-13 14:33:27 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online I was stuck there foor about two hours. Then I got lucky and found what to do.Subj: Re:Last boss Date: 94-02-13 16:38:21 EST From: Sean OK Posted on: America Online Thanks Han. What a pal! Sean.Subj: Re:Problem... Date: 94-02-14 11:33:58 EST From: JasonCor7 Posted on: America Online Yeah.. I've had the same thing happen to me in a few other places too. Sometimes I'll just try to do a Super Spin up a hill, and it wont let me roll past a certain point on the hill, no matter how fast I go! It's pretty annoying, especially when your trying to go SUPER fast to launch yourself into the air off one of the jumps.... -jscSubj: Re:Problem... Date: 94-02-14 15:18:20 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Starange,I never had this problem. BTW I allways hold down on the controller while spinning along the ground,try that,it should work.Subj: Save game and Tails Date: 94-02-14 21:50:04 EST From: JagNut Posted on: America Online Am I doing something wrong or is it impossible to use a save game slot and ply with just Tails. I have no problem playing tails in the "no save" slot but every time I try to select Tails, then pick a new slot and start, I always get Sonic and Tails. Am I doing something wrong?Subj: Re:Save game and Tails Date: 94-02-15 01:58:25 EST From: DrCaligari Posted on: America Online What you need to do is select a save spot and THEN choose tails (the picture will change in that save slot.) The game plays slightly different when you play tails since you fly to some of the higher areas Sonic can't reach alone.Subj: Re:Save game and Tails Date: 94-02-15 16:28:35 EST From: Alfers II Posted on: America Online Yea,the no save is just that,you can't save. just go to a blank save spot,THEN Press up/down. then simply press reset to save the game. (I THINK Turning the Gen off does the same thing)Subj: Re:Save game and Tails Date: 94-02-15 21:19:14 EST From: Echoe19 Posted on: America Online Have you noticed that when you are standing on any type of hill you cannot sit till so that you can do a sonic spin!Subj: Re:No HPZ Date: 94-02-15 21:26:15 EST From: Col Dijon Posted on: PC-Link YES THERE IS! You need a Pro Action Replay to access it. It's not playable and the background is a jumbled mess, but you do get the Hidden Palace Zone title before Sonic just falls to the bottom and dies. Refer to the Sonic 2 topic for the PAR code.Subj: Re:No HPZ Date: 94-02-15 23:16:05 EST From: Boston Jim Posted on: America Online <